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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:43 pm
by travelwithbarb
  I have 2 females both gave birth to joeys beginning of Jan.  I was on a vacation when the joeys out of pouch.  The one mother ate one of her joeys before oop and her other one has been out for more than a week.  The eyes are still closed on the joey and the other mothers joey is larger and eyes are open.  Should I be concerned that the joeys eyes are not open yet?  He is a little smaller than the other joey but not much. 
 

 

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:55 pm
by Something_To_Be
What you should do is be sure not to breed any more until you are more fully educated on what to expect with breeding and joey raising.
 

Joeys don't open their eyes until around 10 days Out of Pouch (OOP).

Mothers can canibalize joeys any time - even when they are 5 weeks OOP, so you are not out of the woods there. 

Do you have lineage on all these gliders?  Do the joeys have the same father?

Are you prepared with a rejected joey kit?  Do you know the signs and symptoms of a rejected joey?

What are you feeding the moms? 

How much do the joeys weigh?  How many days OOP are they? 

Are there only two joeys?

Did both moms check out clear on a wellness exam (fecals, UA, etc) prior to breeding?

How old are these moms?  Are these their first litters?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:27 pm
by SugarShock!
Travelwithbarb,
I completely agree with Val. I am a breeder and I researched 3 1/2 years before getting into it. I strongly suggest that you don't continue breeding until you know a lot more about the process and the little quirky events that can sometimes go horribly wrong. From experience, my joeys have all opened their eyes around 10-12 days OOP or Out of Pouch. Mothers will cannibalize joeys for a variety of reasons: sometimes stress issues or when they have their first litter. We really don't know what is going on inside the mother's mind. All your gliders should be from different parents if you are breeding, I don't believe lineage to be a complete necessity unless you are breeding for colors and selling to current breeders. Rejected Joey kits are very important to have on hand incase an emergency does occur. I lost my first Joey the day she came OOP, she died in my hand. The first thing I did when I found her was call Suzanne Enyedy of Suz Sugar Gliders and ask what to do, I poked around in my Rejected Joey kit but Suzanne and I both knew she was too young to even make it. Rejected Joeys are commonly found outside of the nest, crabbing and cold. I feed my gliders BML (Bourbon's Modified Leadbeaters) the diet can be found through a Google Search or PM me and I'll send you the recipe. We need more information about your gliders to help you with this one. You should not breed if you are inexperienced and your gliders are unhealthy, just my opinion being stated.